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Hyno Designs
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Posted: Sunday, June 19, 2016 at 11:36:30 AM | IP Logged

edited by: Hyno Designs on Tuesday, June 21, 2016 at 10:12:00 PM
 
About 7 years ago played a municipal golf course during the late evening. On the 17th at near around sunset, the color of the burnt out rough and the rays from the sun had an amazing look. It reminded me of Shinnecock Hills. At that time thought of somehow turning that municipal course in to a US Open fictional design for the Tiger Woods series.

During my comeback to the TW series, first wanted to do a few British Open courses, Birkdale, Liverpool, and Lytham. Next wanted to create a fictional PGA course, were it was difficult to the avg. player but to the season Pro they could post numbers. Looking back at some of my own work, the US Open courses still stand out as some of my best, Oakmont, Merion and Shinnecock. Yes Ocean Manor was like a Pebble Beach US Open style design, but it was not an Old School, 100 year old style meets the modern game, that tests every level of your game.

That puts me on to the, Course With No Name, should call it the Eastwood right?

The goal was to use that municipal course as the template. The routing of the holes are as follows: 1 goes out to the right of the club house, 9 comes back, and 10 and 18 do the same as facing the club house. The rest of the holes fit in, while 7& 8 mirror 1& 9, old school, back and forth type of holes.

The front 9 on the municipal track was like 3,800 and the back 9 like 2,900.

The Back 9 was built first, however did not complete the 14th hole, could not get it right, it was a Par 5, but was changed to a Monster Par 4.

The hole was 560 to 607 depending, but moved the green up 50 yards, and watching Oakmont this week, really like how 15 plays, so did a monster green and put bunkers to the right like on 18 at Oakmont. The green is so big that the hole can play 540 yards as a Par 4!

Created a power slot in the fairway that if you can hit the mound you get an extra 40 yards of bounce. First time playing the hole down wind, hit driver 6 iron to 12 feet and made the putt for birdie, but felt like an eagle for sure.

The USGA has always been known for switching up Par 5 to Par 4s, so this course is a Par 70, but for the members it is a Par 73.

The front 9 was a lot harder to design. Really struggled on it, having to re-do holes over and over. The first two holes completed were 7 & 8, next it was 3 & 4 which is really weird. The 2nd hole which is shown in the picture, was the last hole completed on the 9. It has changed 4 or 5 times.

The bunkers; wanted the course to look like it was 100 years old, so used very basic bunker shaping. Did not want Oakland Hills or Whistling Straight bunkers were you have very complex bunker designs.

The course is located in New York, using Shinnecock Hills as the blue print finger. Other Long Island courses as well were used aka Garden City Golf Club and also the Country Club.

I did not want to copy any Shinnecock Holes, but the 9th hole was my own style of the 9 at Shinne.

The 2nd take of the 2nd hole was supposed to be like the 9th hole at Philly Cricket Club, actually had two Philly Cricket influenced hole designs, but neither made the cut for the final course.

The core fundamentals; complex sloped greens with all kinds of movement (false front, edges, crazy movement). For this course wanted wider than normal fairways for a Tiger Woods US Open design. In the past used 20-24 yards wide, this course is 22 to 27. Making the fairways wider makes the course easier, to combat the wider than normal fairways built a lot of doglegs.

Now looking at the course and thinking what I did; most holes are doglegging right. The signature hole the 13th is a Dogleg left, normally do not have a signature hole on any course, this particular hole is one of the best golf holes, I have ever made, it has so much going on, and the angles are just perfect.

Hard angles was important to bring back to my design style. The other idea that I had was to make small greens, after a few holes and them not looking right decided to change. The 1st hole which was created 10, still has a tinny small green.


The USGA has changed the US open over that last 10 years, usually doing a drive able Par 4. This course is missing that, but it does have a few 500 plus Par 4s. Which now seems to be standard in US Opens. My plan was to mix old style design with the modern game and modern changes in the Open. Hopefully people will enjoy this course, it has been fun, challenging, difficult and has pushed me creatively in many levels. Were running out of ideas or knowing what to do, seemed to be the norm. Did use some help looking at different holes on different courses to help.
 
 
 
 
 

 
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Posted: Sunday, June 19, 2016 at 11:45:19 AM | IP Logged

This picture is a progression of the 2nd hole and how it was designed and shaped over time. Basically re-working the hole over and over.  
 
 
 
 

 
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Posted: Sunday, June 19, 2016 at 11:46:35 AM | IP Logged

A look at the Fairway on #6 
 
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Bryson DeChambeau making birdie on #6 
 
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A look at the Par 5, 7th. 
 
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Posted: Sunday, June 19, 2016 at 11:56:23 AM | IP Logged

Bryson DeChambeau tee's off on #8, if Lee Westwood wins today, will call the course Westwood Country Club, or something on those lines... 
 
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Posted: Sunday, June 19, 2016 at 11:58:41 AM | IP Logged

Great work Hyno, thanks for sharing the pics, looks great.
Good to see you are still designing :) 
 
 
 
 

 
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Posted: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 at 10:13:28 PM | IP Logged

edited by: Hyno Designs on Tuesday, June 21, 2016 at 10:16:00 PM
 
Here are a few more pictures, these were shot from my IPhone 
 
 
 
 

 
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Posted: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 at 10:14:42 PM | IP Logged

This is the Par 3, #11 
 
 
 
 

 
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Posted: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 at 10:16:11 PM | IP Logged

This is from the signature #13 hole... 
 
 
 
 

 
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Posted: Sunday, July 10, 2016 at 8:56:23 PM | IP Logged

edited by: Hyno Designs on Sunday, July 10, 2016 at 9:03:00 PM
 
The signature hole destroyed the course file, every time run in to issues. Was re-working some of the holes, cause I couldnt get them right. It is like re-work, re-work, re-work, and you maybe get lucky. Once you make changes, you can never re-design it the same again. Finally got holes 10,12,14 & 16 the way I wanted them, this took hours. Than added extra gallery to hole #12, and bam, I didnt know, saved the file and the shot path went off the course boarder. The only way to fix this is to strip the course file in the CLtool, or go back to an old save. I did a pretty good job planting and their is no way I could get the same look again off the top of my head. At the same time it took hours getting these holes to how I wanted them, dont think I could get it to play the same. Mainly hole 16 were it has to play a specific way with the landing zone elevation and than the elevation to the green. Need to strip the course file, take the completed damaged course file, load it in to another PC, and go through and copy the planting. Tree for Tree. Can use X Y plots to put the trees in a close enough spot, this will take a while, and have never tried this before. 
 
 
 
 

 
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Posted: Monday, July 11, 2016 at 11:49:09 AM | IP Logged

Hiya Hyno, looks it is a tough one, some unexpected problems.
Hopefully you can get it sorted. 
 
 
 
 

 
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Posted: Monday, August 15, 2016 at 6:15:49 PM | IP Logged

edited by: Hyno Designs on Tuesday, August 16, 2016 at 9:22:00 PM
 
When did I start this thread June 19, wow I am doing good.

The USB ports were bad on the old XP machine, the way it got fixed was to replace the mother board, which was like $80.00 than fees for the work. No XP computer for about 3 weeks.


As stated up I messed the shot paths up and they ran off the boarders on hole #13...

Really not in the mood to strip the course file and replant it, just going back to an older file, but I keep messing up, so this project is taking way longer than it should..... 
 
 
 
 

 
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Posted: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 at 11:22:33 AM | IP Logged

Hiya Hyno, bad luck so far, thanks for the update, yes sometimes the course architect can be a big pain. 
 
 
 
 

 
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Posted: Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 7:27:08 PM | IP Logged

well finally got the course pretty much complete, just one small problem just shot the course record with a 27 on the back, that is not holding true to a US Open course.... 
 
 
 
 

 
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Posted: Sunday, August 21, 2016 at 12:17:42 AM | IP Logged


Hyno Designs said:
"well finally got the course pretty much complete, just one small problem just shot the course record with a 27 on the back, that is not holding true to a US Open course...."


Sometimes you can get on a roll and everything drops in the hole. Sounds like the front nine was very worthy if you shot a +2 on it! 
 
 
 
 

 
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Posted: Monday, August 22, 2016 at 6:50:26 PM | IP Logged

edited by: Hyno Designs on Monday, August 22, 2016 at 6:51:00 PM
 
The course is a good test, and wanted it to be fair. Have extra tee boxes that are not in use, it is about an extra 400 yards to the course. Didn''t want to use them for an official release. However destroying the back 9, was something that never crossed my mind, normally shoot -2 to about 1 or 2 over. Just need to think about it.....

Anyway, wanted to update a few players so re-worked Henrik Stenson (last night), created his trusty 3 wood and full logo outfit. Fixed up some of his features.......


 
 
 
 
 

 
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Posted: Monday, August 22, 2016 at 6:55:16 PM | IP Logged

This was basically the picture I used for Stenson, and actually did a pretty nice job on his belt... 
 
 
 
 

 
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Hyno Designs said:
"This was basically the picture I used for Stenson, and actually did a pretty nice job on his belt..."


Looks pretty good!! Is there a tutorial on how to do this type of creation? If so would you be willing to share? 
 
 
 
 

 
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Hi Hyno when do you plan to release the Great stenson? Also any other golfers on the way
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"This was basically the picture I used for Stenson, and actually did a pretty nice job on his belt..."
 
 
 
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